The project is important. I listen to interesting interviews. Especially when a small amount of people show up for an event — has that happened to you? And this is a necessary step in order to provide a space for critical thinking, or for emotional discovery, but also for madness. RB: Tibor Fischer’s story is particularly amazing. EP: It is being attacked so to speak. EP: Well, I like best to read Dickens and I read him over and over again. RB: Right. Yuri Herrera. EP: All of those things. My aunt taught me to read at four. Do you go to the annual BEA? Yuri Herrera: I don’t think everything has to be explained in a novel. EP: There is a story by Evelyn Waugh, a novel I can’t remember which one it is. EP: People do come home and read no matter what their occupation is. There are many artists that one can say that about. RB: A guy takes a trip to some backwater town, and takes a train back to the capitol and meets a woman. EP: Yes, yes. EP: It certainly has. Not enough to educate myself — if I stopped reading, which would be a horror, I would probably not be a different person. It received these very good reviews. His writing style is like nobody else’s, a unique turn of language, a kind of poetic slang. “The Ministry of Restraint,” in part because I didn’t know what was going to happen — how well do you remember your stories — pretty well? I was so dazzled by that that I didn’t hear the rest of the question. He responded, “Yes, after 20 years in the Borscht Belt.” I’m not an overnight sensation, but at the moment I’m in demand. And it was called All About Jews. RB: That was probably the case for most of history — that only a small fraction could benefit from reading and writing. Outside, Fall weather has yet to take hold in Texas: it’s sunny, slightly muggy, and over 90 degrees Fahrenheit. With excerpts included, Herrera explores his use own of language while describing the transience of memory and the challenge of translation. EP: Yes, I think I do. Yuri explains that he considered himself a writer even before starting studies at the Universidad Nacional y Autónoma de México (UNAM). A small group of people who love it and don’t care if they are thought of as crazy. It has a slightly angelic appeal to me. I go to bookstores. I go to festivals. EP: Why don’t they have that luxury in their off hours? I don’t remember. RB: For some reason, the 3200 comes up in a few stories. What caused the switch from poly sci to letra? I’m wondering what your thoughts are on the popularity of narcocorridos and their influence and what it means for a society when people are banned from partaking in something? And then, for a collection of my own, I certainly have an opportunity to change or review. How did you come to select this book by Yuri Herrera for the interview? RB: Well, at least if you pay attention to The New York Times. All of your books are approximately the same slim size, somewhere around 100 pages. The ban in Ciudad Juárez has apparently since been lifted because the new mayor is financially invested in several radio stations and the ban was not good for business, either way it did not really matter because the songs by groups like Los Tigres del Norte only got more popular when they were outlawed. That’s okay. I ask: could he someday pen a book in epistolary form, first-person letters? I would go to my grave with a small collection, happy. I love the narrative. I usually like movies when I see them. My purpose is not to find new things. RB: Do you think the task of literature is to instruct and entertain? I don’t think they need much teaching and I was one of those. EP: Yes. RB: The percentage may not be the different but the cause may be and thus the hold it has on our civilization may be different — more tenuous. He mentions his digs have a yard and he shows me a picture on his phone of his adopted dog Max, a rescue. He then uses an English word to describe his house: he calls it a “shotgun.” I’d never heard the term before, so he describes it in Spanish. I started a book, I think, at the age of three. In our interview with Lisa Dillman, one of this year’s National Book Award Finalists in Literary Translation, ... Death of a Horse; and Such Small Hands) as well as Yuri Herrera’s Signs Preceding the End of the World and The Transmigration of Bodies. Anthony Doerr got very good reviews. EP: I don’t remember. Why indeed? So I have probably read each book five or seven times. So this somehow happened. EP: Well, in Dickens, each time I find something, some turn of phrase, a manipulation of plot or a character I hadn’t appreciated. What a masterpiece! EP: I thought you asked who I read most or my favorite — at any rate. En la primavera de 2019, los autores entrevistados serán Achy Obejas, Yuri Herrera and Claudia Hernández. EP: No, I don’t feel that way. Alright. Yuri Herrera studied Political Science at the National Autonomous University of Mexico, obtained a master's degree in Creative Writing at the University of Texas, El Paso and a Ph.D., 2009, in Hispanic Language and Literature at the University of California, Berkeley.He is the editor of the literary magazine El perro and a Mellow Postdoctoral Fellow at Tulane University. RB: What’s come out that has really excited reviewers? I start all over again with the knowledge that I have gotten from the improvisation. I recognize his face and glasses, but he doesn’t see me. RB: People who collect guns or Aunt Jemima cookie jars are passionate also. I don’t remember what model it was. EP: We have had and we are ruthless with each other. Weeks ago, I had ordered a copy at Brazos from his Spanish publisher, Editorial Periférica, but was waiting to get my copy at his signing. People who read, people who write–. RB: Are there generalizations with which one can describe short form fiction writers? EP: That was a riff on Magwitch in Great Expectations. Are big novels just spinning their wheels and wasting everyone’s time? RB: What was the last movie you saw you liked? The hero alone is captured by a crazy, fanatic ex-preacher who lives alone. “Kingdom Cons,” also by the Mexican author Yuri Herrera, floored me. Robert Birnbaum: What was the first book you remember reading? There are probably a half of dozen people who see the child — each of them has a thought that you know about. EP: I have revisited it often in interviews. Yuri Herrera Yuri Herrera Interview Author Yuri Herrera on ‘the American problem that Mexico is suffering’ Yuri Herrera (in Spanish) I write my stories on a typewriter too. RB: After reading Lamb were you a fully engaged reader? I note that his other novels – Signs Preceding the End of the World and The Transmigration of Bodies – have strong endings. EP: No, that’s what the destruction of Jewry was about. Of the writers of my generation, the one I most admire is Yuri Herrera. I write hoping that a magazine will take it. Meander? YH: I don’t know if it’s the main reason, but it’s something that you are going to have to face if you truly engage with the creative labor, because art implies creating new ways of looking at familiar subjects, and in order to do that you have to disassemble rules, meanings, certainties, you have to look at the arbitrariness of certain aspects of reality, or at the nonsense of cruelty, or at the complications of love, and in this manner you can not only mess with your readers’ emotional stability, but with your own. Some idea of Irishness that doesn’t involve being female is over. And I read somewhere that Nabokov wrote his novels that way on 5×8 cards. RB: Is there one thing that moves you in taking up or developing a story — a name, an image, feeling, a memory? Yuri’s Uber is running a few minutes late, so I step into the Fellini Caffe in Rice Village, our agreed meeting place, and order an Americano. Forty Stories: New Writing from Harper Perennial, Messing with People’s Expectations: The Millions Interviews Mark Binelli, Creation Myths: The Millions Interviews Lindsay Hatton, Ada Limón and Erika Sánchez Discuss Self-Care and a Life of Words, Novelist-of-the-Future: A Profile of Jennifer Egan, Facts That Turn Out to Be Fiction: Ann Cummins and Sarah Stone on Writing, Landscape, and Family, Overnight Sensation? EP: Right. RB: Really – writer’s block? RB: That was a while ago — it just came out in paper. EP: I have written 250 short pieces, not all fiction. I lost track of why the card game devolved to the temple and presentation ceremony. The last time I didn’t feel I got anything new and it made me wonder about past judgments about the book. EP: My daughter used to read novels that way. Yuri Herrera was born in 1970 in Actopan, Mexico.His first novel to appear in English, Signs Preceding the End of the World, won the 2016 Best Translated Book Award.Herrera earned his PhD at Berkeley and is currently teaching at the University of Tulane in New Orleans. RB: They had all been previously published somewhere? And the prize givers ought to be more humble and certainly the writers. Or not appreciated. EP: I started to write — actually I finished writing a mystery story with a friend but it wasn’t very good. Today it would seem passion — people who like reading and literature passionately began to champion the independent bookstore. Yuri Herrera Interview by Elizabeth Sulis Kim Yuri Herrera is a Mexican author, political scientist, and professor of Spanish and Portuguese at Tulane University in New Orleans. And I never expected to have any bigger following. Mostly there is a six-week window of attention for books and then goodbye. EP: No you didn’t. And she either says, “This is almost done” or “Go back.” And I do. In Spanish with English subtitles. It was luck. EP: No, I don’t do that. TM: At one point in Kingdom Cons the news arrives at the Palace that the Artist’s songs have been banned, the DJs get “orders to shut his groove down.” Something similar to this happened across northern Mexico in the early 2000s, city governments implemented bans on narcocorridos, claiming that they would poison the youth by glamorizing the narco lifestyle, a similar critique to one that has been voiced in the United States about gangster rap. RB: Ray Bradbury’s Fahrenheit 451 has seemed prescient to me. It made life somehow better. RB: That’s the Frankfurt Book Fair. Learn how your comment data is processed. He mentions his obsession with words. I think it was Lamb’s Tales From Shakespeare. He would need a “truly original” idea before attempting it. Instead of doubt, his decision was based on confidence. RB: You gave me the impression that you aren’t required to read any particular writer. YH: There are a lot of words that work as markers of a certain rhythm and a certain character of Lobo, like Simón, which is another word for Yes, but, say, with more attitude. For every story I find a core around which the rest of the text is going to proliferate, sometimes it is a tension between characters, sometimes it is a dramatic line, like a transformational journey, sometimes it is an atmosphere. EP: I took a course in college and a course or two in my 30s. They don’t let you do that now. YH: Translation is a step into the abyss, because it doesn’t matter how “accurate” it is, it will always create a different object, with unexpected meanings. EP: No, no. The Mexican novelist Yuri Herrera talks about the first English translation of one of his novels, the Mexica afterlife, and Dante. For example, characters say “Usté” instead of the proper Usted. The early music crowd is eccentric and a world unto itself. A man who looks like Yuri walks hastily into the Café. I had the honor of speaking with Herrera recently about silence, power, creation, and translation. He states that for his debut novel, Kingdom Cons, the story’s “núcleo” – “core” in English – was the tension and “inequality in power” between the musician artist and his wealthy, violent drug lord patron. The songwriter (Lobo or “the Artist”) is delighted to have found a wealthy patron (“the King”). And not a widespread choice. I had the luck to be plucked. EP: Yes. And the things we believe today, we can expect not to believe tomorrow. It’s going to see these younger women coming through, and they don’t give a damn. RB: I wonder about the aftermath of writing a novel, which requires a writer to inhabit lives for a period of time. RB: Do you know Andrea Barrett’s The Voyage of the Narwhal? While avoiding aggressive Texan drivers – a staple of Houston – I recall one last question. I would never skip around in a novel. Pearlman has published over 250 short fictions and works of non-fiction in all the usual (and some unusual) places, and has been anthologized in Best American Short Stories, New Stories from the South, The Pushcart Prize Collection,and The O. Henry Prize Stories Collection. RB: You start out with a sense that there is a civilizing effect of thinking and writing and telling stories. (Laughs). The editor doesn’t respond. It’s a nice alternative to fiction. I am certain you know the stories of writers who have submitted their books to many publishers and were rejected. Herrera’s novels are at once evocative of royal court dramas, Greek tragedies, Shakespearean romances, old world fairytales, hardboiled detective novels, and philosophical treatises on the power of art and words. He graciously takes his dirty plate and cup into the café to save the waiter a trip, and then I offer him a ride to the reading. Thank you for this excellent interview! RB: I don’t remember the chain of events that brought us together — it must be because you are an overnight sensation (laughs). My own take on Ms. Pearlman’s fair-weather fame has something to do with the limited attention paid to the practitioners of short fiction — when I grouped her in the company of much heralded short story maestros Alice Munro and William Trevor, Edith blushed (though she did not demur, false modesty is not an attribute she has). Donald Trump’s attempt at a coup was not the first staged by a US president – just the first on US soil. I can now see that I was not the only one like this growing up. Like the ones you mentioned. And I always had a small following. I confess to him that I have not yet read Kingdom Cons, Spanish title Trabajos del Reino. And a few weeks later, the writer decides the editor was right (laughs). I do it for my publisher. And that is fine, that is something that should be embraced, precisely because it is a way of expanding the life of a text. EP: She had to get over her rage and humiliation first. RB: You chose to have a number of people tell the story. EP: I don’t know that the percentage is any different now. EP: Obviously, I don’t go to it since I don’t know what it is. Drowned out isn’t the word I would use. RB: How do you know? I don’t think Dickens appears. EP: I thought it was done to the best of my ability at the time. And no — I don’t think I ever have. Should more novels be small and distilled? It won’t last forever, so I am responding to it. I tried and was told that the director did mean for you to see it that way. Mexican author Yuri Herrera discusses his novel Signs Preceding the End of the World ahead of his appearance at the Edinburgh International Book Festival. “He knew blood, and could see this man’s was different. I mean, who likes cookie cutter retailers? EP: My husband plays early music — he plays the viola de gamba as an amateur. YH: In this specific case it is because although I took for my model a very precise space, the border between Ciudad Juárez and El Paso, and a very precise issue, the criminal stupidity of the “War on Drugs,” designed by different American administrations and followed by several Mexican administrations, the craziness of the powerful was not invented by these criminals, the drug lords, it is something that has always been there. So I am sure if that story gets re-collected she’ll change some things. The Peauxdunque Review and the Words and Music Writers Conference are pleased that Michael Zapata has agreed to judge the 2020 Beyond the Bars category of the Words and Music Writing Competition. In 2016 she won the Best Translated Book Award for Signs Preceding the End of the World. The only way to get through time alive is to spend a lot of it pretending that everything’s fine. Purchase this Issue » Volume 91 No. Plus the optimistic message for the readers, we have bear the costs if we wish to live in a better world. EP: When I was a girl, I‘d go to a double feature in the middle and go around for the part I missed. The latest issue of World Literature Today surveys thirteen writers’ dystopian visions of the future. In general the writers are — they know how lucky they are. RB: Well, you have missed one of the great TV series — The Wire. That’s been going on for 25 years. EP: And now they have readings. EP: It started even earlier. RB: This recent collection was a collection of stories that already existed? Regarding the names of the characters, these are like that in order to introduce an element of tension: their names as roles create an expectation of what they are supposed to do, and each character is going to define itself by resisting or obeying that expectation. Because it’s a chance to improve them. My grandson is the same way. The stories about the woman who works for the joint distribution committee — there are four about her. He approaches a white dude with a beard sitting at a table and typing away at a laptop. RB: That does speak to the assumption that writers should help their publishers promote and sell their books. As for the other characters, it has to do with the role that the King assigned to them, their names signal the tension between what they might or might not want to do and what power expects from them. RB: Some writers say they will write stories specifically for a book. The man looks puzzled and nods no, and Yuri scans about and sees me waving. RB: And what the Torah is about (laughs)? And I also have a very good radio. RB: Is that the extent of your reading, you just read Dickens? EP: Well, the title of the story is “Chance.” That’s what poker is about–. But it probably always was. EP: I am sure I am missing things that are good. And I didn’t write it in the order of its final form. Edith Pearlman: Interesting question. For the first time in my writing life, I think the future is going to be a better balanced one. RB: And then the heart wrenching tale of a damaged infant. EP: I would, but I am not a proselytizer. RB: Big city life in Baltimore — drugs, unions, corruption, public schools, politics, media. I don’t feel I have to read anybody. But corridos are not a genre that emerged with the War on Drugs, it has been around for a long time, and very often has been a way in which stories out of the mainstream have circulated. TM: I’m interested in the influence of fairytales, folklore, and fables on your writing. I’ve never had my writing translated so I have not yet had this experience and I’m curious how it feels to you to read your words in a different language? It’s not one — something I dream–. I must have read about you in Variety. What’s the best advice you’ve ever received? I participate in the process only as much as they ask me to. INTERVIEW: "Literature as a Political Responsibility: An Interview with Yuri Herrera" by Radmila Stefkova and Rodrigo Figueroa Fiction "Fugue" by Gisela Kozak Interviews "Composition of Place": A Conversation between Roberto Brodsky and José Kozer by Roberto Brodsky and José Kozer I think that view is actually taken from Horace. Has written three novels, all of them translated into several languages: Trabajos del reino, Señales que precederán al fin del mundo, and La transmigración de los cuerpos; which have been published in English by And Other Stories.He is currently an assistant professor at the University of Tulane, in New Orleans. Life goes on and I write the next story. RB: In the last few years, I have relaxed my personal rule about finishing books that I begin–, EP: Many of my friends have said that [same] thing to me: “Now, if I don’t like it out it goes.”. I also admit to laughing at having read the phrase “Hijuelachingada,” which may sound odd to non-Mexican ears. ‘Those things you really want to silence are precisely those you should interrogate’ Can you talk a little bit about the power of absence and what you intended by not naming people and places? That short fiction writers are looked as artisans? EP: Absolutely. Las entrevistas servirán para alimentar un archivo digital que reflejará como se escribe y se publica en América Latina hoy en día. RB: (Chuckles) You bought the book and haven’t read it. RB: Are you tempted to write what seems to be a current trend–. I was charmed by their initial close proximity which was brought to some fruition much later. , Yuri sits a bit back from the table with his body open to the entire table. We realize Yuri’s event starts in less than ten minutes. It can be healthy to purge dark things, but it can also excavate old and new suffering that needs to be attended to. I wrote it in pieces. The book is set on a border, but the border is not specified, the cities are not named, and most of the characters are referred to only by epithets or roles. EP: Thirteen new stories that had not been in a book. I’ve read all of Yuri Herrera’s novels that have been translated to English and I find his work to be fascinating. By fallible human beings. I have enough intensity to get involved. Or 30 rejection letters for a story. RB: (Laughs). Very interested in diving into a work of nonfiction from him. Except for David Foster Wallace’s The Pale King. In final pages, you learn explicitly that they were lovers once. Yuri speaks excellent English, but we converse in Spanish and Yuri answers most of my questions without pause. Tags: aaron bady, borders, kafka, Mexico, modernity, poetics, Signs Preceding the End of the World, The New Inquiry, violence, Yuri Herrera The Rumpus Interview with Francisco Goldman By … With inspiration from Lifehacker’s How I work interviews, the MarTech Series Interviews follows a two part format On Marketing Technology, and This Is How I Work. We know what we are and we’re good with it. Suddenly, time rears its ugly head. All else flowed from that. Other blood. No, I think I went back to Mary Poppins. I used it for years. I think that’s what reading may become. RB: Do you have any sense that it’s being drowned out? How do these decisions get made? At this point I feel like I’ve probably read enough. There is a moment in the middle of Kingdom Cons when the Artist is talking about writing corridos and he says “The story tells itself but you have to coax it […] you take one or two words and the others revolve around them, that’s what holds it up. There were five seasons and every season had a different focus. Biography. Yuri Herrera writes about the border between Mexico and the United States and those who cross it. I ask Yuri if his creative process starts with a person, a landscape, or plot? But it’s the mother who speaks in the first person. If it then goes into an anthology like Best American, I take an opportunity to correct or revise there — but not much. Let Us Help You Pick Your Next Book. I have been writing for 40 years and this is my fourth book. Why else be an artist?” When I read this, it reminded me of something that another writer I know, Scott McClanahan, said recently in an interview. TM: You have a very distinctive writing style: charged but very clipped, deceptively simple, with short sentences and not a lot of description. Your email address will not be published. I’m also curious about the translation process and how involved you are in it? EP: By human beings. RB: Where does that impulse come from? For instance, many novelists write short fiction, but it seems that short fiction practitioners don’t often write novels. TM: There is one word in Kingdom Cons that I kept coming back to and thinking about in terms of translation: the use of the word “tho” in place of “though.” To me, when I was reading, it was a visual cue to me to remind me that I was existing in Lobo’s world (similar to the way that the verb”‘verse” made me feel when I read Signs Preceding the End of the World.) Keep Writing!! Signs Preceding the End of the World is his second novel, and was published in English in 2015. RB: And then you got better since you wrote it? EP: Linked stories? I don’t think that obtains any more — especially because I don’t think one can be poor with dignity in the 21st century. I have a feeling that I’d become addicted if I started watching. program, “Foucault can show you a lense to view society and power, but will not teach you how to write a good story.”. So often I wanted to stop and say to the audience, ‘Did you hear that? EP: Music mostly. I had the experience of standing before 500 people reading my story — all of 499 had come for him. There are writers absolutely as good as I am or better who write their books and don’t get noticed. I read Lamb with my aunt. He accepts, and, only after my wife insists, sits in the front passenger seat. RB: There is this meme of the educated working class guy who finishes his shift on the assembly line and goes home and picks up William Faulkner. I have a few — one is a [portable] Hermes 3000, which reportedly was the typewriter of choice for journalists. Mesha Maren Any polar expeditions? Although I reread 100 Years of Solitude three or four times. It’s all an abuse of the mind. TM: When the Artist’s songs were banned the King comforted him, “He smiled and his smile seemed a protective embrace that said to the Artist, Why sugarcoat the ears of those fuckers? He says “it’s possible,” but it’s been “done before” by others. Kingdom Cons is the Mexican novelist’s first book but his third to be translated into English, and like his other two slim, impactful novels (Signs Preceding the End of the World and The Transmigration of Bodies) the story he tells reaches out its tendril hands in many different directions. But he is in Richard Flanagan’s Wanting and in Joseph O’Connor’s Star of the Sea. Become a member today. RB: Yes, it’s mentioned in the middle of the story. And passionate and they don’t write early music — it’s already been written, but they play it and adapt it. Yuri Herrera was born in Actopan, Mexico, in 1970. EP: Then I read the plays in order. The Millions' future depends on your support. But other books are coming along with good reviews. The train is blocked at a tunnel and the passengers have to get off and return to the starting point — as man and the woman walk side by side, their hands come close to touching but do not. My wife and daughter had tagged along to get a drink and go window-shopping at Rice Village while I did the interview; they make to exit, but Yuri – smiling, warm, and energetic – insists we all sit together. Kingdom Cons includes lots of recognizable archetypes that appear in fairy or folktales across the globe—the King, the Witch, the Commoner, the Heir—can you talk a little bit about your choice to use these sorts of stock mythic characters? I ask Yuri about his life in the United States and more specifically New Orleans, where he teaches at Tulane. EP: Thank you very much for putting me in that threesome. I point out that he has more compensated for any lack of an undergrad lit degree, having finished an M.F.A. My purpose is to sink into them. YH: I think it is a lot like that. As is the case with my author colloquium, Edith Pearlman and I talked about many things – Tales From Shakespeare, Hermes typewriters, Penelope Fitzgerald, reading Dickens, the task of literature, Aunt Jemima cookie jars, and more. There were plenty of children’s books around — maybe I read Five Little Peppers and How They Grew or–. Stumble about? EP: Yes, we have to have our end not only in mind, but pointed towards, within the story. I tell Yuri that he mentioned in an earlier online interview that he enjoys reading The Bible and viewing it as a work of written craft. Silences are important because they are the most eloquent part of a creative work in how it allows the readers to reveal themselves when they fill them. Put them to shame. EP: Absolutely. Why did you name her Tess? EP: No, no. Did he amble? EP: Improve? The term in Spanish for somebody well-mannered is “educado.” The word also means “educated.” It’s an apt description of Yuri, who, with an MFA, PhD, and several acclaimed novels, remains a gentlemen and still brims with infectious energy when discussing the written word. RB: It would be okay if there were some humility attached to the gate keeping of publishing. I’m trying to think of fiction — I am sure there are others. RB: What’s it like to be on book tour? 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